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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 12:18:50 GMT 10
Well I live in Dubbo where the definition of a hill is a slight rise in the road that you can ride every day for a year and not realise it's actually going upwards until you have to walk it. So I dont have to do hillstarts often.
That was until I went to Queensland recently and I was hit with hillstarts in a big way.
So here's a couple of ways I had a go ...
First hill start I tried to take off the way I normally do, with both feet firmly planted on the ground cause I get unsteady with one foot on the brake when I'm stopped. Gently letting off the front brake with two fingers while trying to acelerate with the other two fingers and thumb letting out the clutch at the same time. Yeah it worked but it wasnt pretty.
So I tried it with my foot on the foot brake. I was unsteady at first, (I also had a huge load of luggage on the back the first time I did this which didnt help) but when I got her moving this time it seemed to go a touch smoother.
So my question is ... is there a better way to do a hill start? I know I need practice with this either way but I'm wondering if one way or the other is better. Or are there times when you may need to do it one way and other times when you need to do it another?
I remember one particular hillstart I did where I was turning left up hill, the camber on the corner was sharply going down into the corner, I did that one with the front brake cause I could see the bike going straight over on that camber. (yes I screwed that start up royally!)
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Post by Clarry on Jun 11, 2012 12:34:16 GMT 10
I gotta admit, I never did feel comfortable using the foot brake for hill starts. It just doesn't come natural to me. So I've actually become very good at just going from a stopped position with the front brake on and both feet on the ground, to dropping the clutch and getting away with little or no backward roll. It ain't text book but it works for me.
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Post by Mac on Jun 11, 2012 17:37:01 GMT 10
living on the Gold Coast, hill starts are a daily occurance. I prefer the foot brake to hold, rather than trying to juggle the front brake/accelerator with the right hand.
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Post by scrap on Jun 11, 2012 17:52:31 GMT 10
Rear brake on, clutch it out slowly and ease of the rear brake off when the bike wants to go forward. It helps to practice left foot down on even surfaces if you're generally a right foot down rider so you can master this.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 18:38:40 GMT 10
Dido with Scrap on this one .
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Post by george on Jun 11, 2012 20:19:25 GMT 10
I'm with scrap and rayd. It takes a bit of practice but once you get the hang of it, it gets easier and then comes naturally.
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Post by kinghavok on Jun 11, 2012 20:23:07 GMT 10
Likewise, get used to keeping your right foot on the break at the lights. Not only will it he you we hill starts, but keeping the break light on will save you a rear ender one day.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 20:39:06 GMT 10
Thanks guys, it looks like I'm gonna have to practice some more with my rear brake eh. I think this is still a hang over from the days when I rode the scooter and didnt use my feet at all. I am getting better at it.
King Havok that's a good point and I always keep my hand on the brake when stopped at lights for just that reason, and will even pump it a couple of times to try to create a bit of interest. Now to just practice doing that with the foot brake.
I really can see how it's easier to do a hill start using the back brake, using the front is easy enough on a flat surface but I really felt like I was juggling doing it on the hill start.
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Post by Langers on Jun 11, 2012 21:10:36 GMT 10
Hi Annastasia I'm with you - hill starts are no fun. The main one for me is left at a T and up a very steep turn. I solved it by taking a different route - extra 150 metres but now I turn left down the hill, not up it - soooo much easier. Where I do have to do the hill start, I tend to hold the bike with the legs (but I am a fat boy) and play the front brake & clutch. In your case I reckon the rear brake should be the one to practice, like the gurus above have said.
Cheers ... Mark
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 13:18:29 GMT 10
Hi Annastasia I'm with you - hill starts are no fun. The main one for me is left at a T and up a very steep turn. I solved it by taking a different route - extra 150 metres but now I turn left down the hill, not up it - soooo much easier. Where I do have to do the hill start, I tend to hold the bike with the legs (but I am a fat boy) and play the front brake & clutch. In your case I reckon the rear brake should be the one to practice, like the gurus above have said. Cheers ... Mark That sounds just like the last one I did in Indooroopilly ... I hated it!!! Yep just like everything else .. practice practice practice ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 12, 2012 21:05:26 GMT 10
Yep even down learning how to keep your P plates on . ;D ;D ;D ;D Sorry about that ;D ;D ;D Cheers Ray
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2012 17:56:10 GMT 10
Yep even down learning how to keep your P plates on . ;D ;D ;D ;D Sorry about that ;D ;D ;D Cheers Ray Hey that's not me .. that's the cheap plastics fault!!! Oh well maybe it's a little bit me, I'm a gurl I dont have to know how to do up a bolt At least it's only for another 11 months ;D
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Post by cliff on Dec 27, 2012 11:18:19 GMT 10
Rear brake hill start dosent work when 1) loaded with luggage& pillion PLUS 2) turning on steep hill (eg Maleny village- Stop sign) My solution :AVOID THE SITUATION
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Post by happycamper on Dec 27, 2012 22:22:28 GMT 10
bit like synchronised swimming, it will all fall into place with practice, when loaded dont be shy on the revs taking off. nothin like the feeling of stalling then rolling backwards,
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Post by angel on Jan 7, 2013 0:18:13 GMT 10
Anna, you definatly need to get into the habit of sitting at the lights with the rear brake on, its safer and if you have to take off quick the bike is more stable as you can get the other foot up quicker. Also its technically easier to take off so less chance of mishaps.
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